New Tasks get Zero Credit

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ChelseaOilman Send message Joined: 26 Jul 23 Posts: 9 Credit: 10,124,696 RAC: 0	Message 210 - Posted: 2 Aug 2023, 23:42:13 UTC I started doing tasks for this project but all my finished tasks are getting zero credits. ID: 210 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Steve Dodd Send message Joined: 19 Jul 23 Posts: 4 Credit: 755,584 RAC: 0	Message 211 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 0:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 210. Confirmed, and I've been running this project since its inception. Most recent tasks are getting 0 credit. ID: 211 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Fardringle Send message Joined: 17 Jun 23 Posts: 9 Credit: 7,297,070 RAC: 57,512	Message 212 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 1:00:52 UTC Confirmed here as well. All tasks from the new batch, both in Linux and in Windows, are receiving zero credits for successful validation. ID: 212 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

fzs600 Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 12 Credit: 1,015,293 RAC: 0	Message 213 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 4:37:06 UTC - in response to Message 212. 2 Aug 2023, 16:39:59 UTC 3 Aug 2023, 4:22:45 UTC Terminé et validé 5,660.51 5,512.44 0.00 Symmetric Prime Tuples v1.01 windows_x86_64 ID: 213 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,252,056 RAC: 6,940	Message 215 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 8:23:06 UTC Yes. I see. It is very strange that when I tested yesterday this did not happen. I did several parts yesterday (3, 50, 100). Rechecked on the client. Everything was OK. Then I made two parts of 10,000 each and it seems that there is a problem with such an amount. I will cancel tasks. ID: 215 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 217 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 8:58:23 UTC Last modified: 3 Aug 2023, 9:00:56 UTC Задания обрабатываются 12187 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/server_status.php Demis 1) Will these tasks also not receive credit? 2) Now we will wait again when this list ends? Workunits waiting for assimilation 140627 3) what does this entry mean? I have a feeling that these are tasks from the previous party that you want to recalculate. I noticed that the database is not updated with new results at all. # last = 806373 # count = 6859 # last = 803131 # count = 66 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?k=13 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?k=15 And therefore I suspect that the tasks already calculated earlier are considered. ID: 217 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 218 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 9:11:03 UTC Last modified: 3 Aug 2023, 9:34:39 UTC Just now there is one new solution in the database # last = 806668 # count = 6860 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?k=13 And plus # last = 806728 # count = 6862 ID: 218 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 219 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 10:54:08 UTC Last modified: 3 Aug 2023, 10:54:26 UTC Demis I would like answers to my questions here https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=25&postid=217 ID: 219 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 220 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 18:42:09 UTC And plus # last = 806728 # count = 6864 ID: 220 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,252,056 RAC: 6,940	Message 221 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 19:25:27 UTC - in response to Message 217. Задания обрабатываются 12187 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/server_status.php 1) Will these tasks also not receive credit? So far I don't understand. For reasons unknown to me, some of the calculations are counted, and some are not. (Perhaps this happens if there are identical results.) 2) Now we will wait again when this list ends? Tomorrow I plan to release another batch. (Perhaps per 1000 entries) Workunits waiting for assimilation 140627 3) what does this entry mean? I have a feeling that these are tasks from the previous party that you want to recalculate. I noticed that the database is not updated with new results at all. [quote]# last = 806373 # count = 6859 # last = 803131 # count = 66 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?k=13 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?k=15 And therefore I suspect that the tasks already calculated earlier are considered. When you delete tasks through the standard interface, the entries are not deleted, but go into assimilation pending. In this case, the message "Canceled jobs are not removed from the database. Instead, they are marked as 'no longer needed'." is written. Why? This is a question for the developers. New entries are still being added. When I checked it was already a different number. It is better to watch the full recording of the batch https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?batch=87 But he is very big... ID: 221 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

aendgraend Send message Joined: 22 Jun 23 Posts: 20 Credit: 771,762 RAC: 0	Message 222 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 20:29:23 UTC Last modified: 3 Aug 2023, 20:30:43 UTC Just saw this Thread and noticed after reading it, that I also got no credits for all valid results (a few hundred already...). I thus cancelled the remaining 800+ workunits. I'm sorry to say, but I don't have money to wasted for electric energy, so I'm switching to other projects until this is fixed. ID: 222 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 223 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 23:21:19 UTC - in response to Message 221. Last modified: 4 Aug 2023, 1:48:01 UTC Задания обрабатываются 12187 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/server_status.php 1) Will these tasks also not receive credit? So far I don't understand. For reasons unknown to me, some of the calculations are counted, and some are not. (Perhaps this happens if there are identical results.) That's it! You recalculate tasks for the second time. 1) Do not load tasks from the previous batch. 2) Wait until all tasks from "processing" are processed or canceled by crunchers. 3) Generate and upload a new batch of tasks (make it at the level of 128000, as it was before by Tomas, it can be even lower, huge batches are not assigned for testing.) But you must prohibit the issuance of tasks to crunchers, and allow their issuance only to yourself. Test a number of tasks from the new batch. Make sure everything works correctly (quorum = 1, deadline, credit). ID: 223 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 224 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 23:27:29 UTC When you delete tasks through the standard interface, the entries are not deleted, but go into assimilation pending. In this case, the message "Canceled jobs are not removed from the database. Instead, they are marked as 'no longer needed'." is written. Why? This is a question for the developers. New entries are still being added. When I checked it was already a different number. It is better to watch the full recording of the batch https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/spt_list.php?batch=87 But he is very big... This also needs to be dealt with. ID: 224 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 225 - Posted: 3 Aug 2023, 23:32:20 UTC Last modified: 3 Aug 2023, 23:34:00 UTC If there are uncalculated tasks in the first batch, this also needs to be analyzed separately. ID: 225 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 237 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 2:08:45 UTC Задания обрабатываются 12065 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/server_status.php Demis Are the credits being charged now? ID: 237 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,252,056 RAC: 6,940	Message 239 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 4:41:52 UTC - in response to Message 237. Задания обрабатываются 12065 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/server_status.php Demis Are the credits being charged now? Yes. ID: 239 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 241 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 4:48:26 UTC - in response to Message 239. Last modified: 5 Aug 2023, 4:49:56 UTC 1 [AF] Kalianthys 66,574 1,345,347 Antarctica 14 Jun 2023, 17:27:28 UTC 2 PDW 57,564 1,203,648 United Kingdom 15 Jun 2023, 12:32:15 UTC 3 zombie67 [MM] 51,288 1,067,943 15 Jun 2023, 17:44:50 UTC 4 emoga 35,468 622,985 Canada 16 Jun 2023, 19:55:54 UTC . . . . . . . https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/top_users.php It seems to me that nothing has changed here. Therefore, credits are not charged??? And another question: what do these endless batches of tasks mean? Batch 88: 5170878384525935453 .. 5172828384525935453 -1 Count: 1000 Continue from 5,17E+18 Batch 89: 5172828384525935453 .. 5176728384525935453 -1 Count: 2000 Continue from 5,17E+18 Batch 90: 5172828384525935453 begin: 5172828379391935453, end: 5172828389659935453 -1 Count: 0 Make overlap from -5134000000 and +5134000000 . This is special wu created for overlap_88_89 Batch 91: 5176728384525935453 .. 5184528384525935453 -1 Count: 4000 Continue from 5,17E+18 Batch 92: 5184528384525935453 begin: 5184528379391935453, end: 5184528389659935453 Count: 1 Make overlap from -5134000000 and +5134000000 . This is special wu created for overlap_89_91 Batch 93: 5184528384525935453 .. 5200128384525935453 -1 Count: 8000 Continue from 5,18E+18 Batch 94: 5200128384525935453 begin: 5200128379391935453, end: 5200128389659935453 Count: 1 Make overlap from -5134000000 and +5134000000 . This is special wu created for overlap_91_94 Batch 95: 5200128384525935453 .. 5231328384525935453 -1 Count: 16000 Continue from 5,2E+18 Batch 96: 5231328384525935453 begin: 5231328379391935453, end: 5231328389659935453 Count: 1 Make overlap from -5134000000 and +5134000000 . This is special wu created for overlap_93_95 Batch 97: 5231328384525935453 .. 5293728384525935453 -1 Count: 32000 Continue from 5,23E+18 Batch 98: 5293728384525935453 begin: 5293728379391935453, end: 5293728389659935453 Count: 1 Make overlap from -5134000000 and +5134000000 . This is special wu created for overlap_95_97 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_forum.php?id=29 Can you generate and run a normal batch of tasks? ID: 241 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,252,056 RAC: 6,940	Message 242 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 5:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 241. Statistics are updated once a day. Usually in the evening. Not even a day has passed before new tasks were issued. New tasks were generated incrementally, with error checking. We will soon come to big tasks. In just two iterations. ID: 242 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 243 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 6:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 242. Batch 87: 4663878384525935453 .. 5170878384525935453 -1 Count: 260000 Continue from 4,66E+18 https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=6&postid=133 We will soon come to big tasks. I already wrote: do not make large batches while the project is being tested. 260,000 is a very large lot. Make a batch, for example 100,000 or 128,000. ID: 243 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 244 - Posted: 5 Aug 2023, 6:31:36 UTC Last modified: 5 Aug 2023, 6:36:48 UTC It's changed now 1 [AF] Kalianthys 70,226 1,417,208 Antarctica 14 Jun 2023, 17:27:28 UTC By the way, you were asked about badges https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=13&postid=198 ID: 244 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote