Problem with validation.

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Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 408 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 407. Last modified: 25 Aug 2023, 8:38:02 UTC How is that even possible? Such an event immediately raises an incredibly wide range of completely different questions. Is this a bug in our assimilator code? Is this a bug in the boink server code? Is this a mistake in the settings of the battle server? Is this a transactional model error? Is this a bug in MySQL? Is this a bug in MySQL settings? Is this a bug in the settings of the OS on which the boink-server is running? This error definitely does not occur in the case of data processing when "all the necessary files are there"? How can we trust the received data? And so on... There are more than a thousand questions... It probably takes more than one year to write them all. Therefore, item 3 now has no answer. And I just don't know what to do with it... So the reason is unknown. And this can happen again at any moment. Demis I understand correctly? ID: 408 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 409 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:45:07 UTC - in response to Message 408. So the reason is unknown. And this can happen again at any moment. Demis I understand correctly? Yes. Everyone got it right. We know how it goes. We don't know why this is happening. Perhaps one of the users will tell us the direction of finding a solution to this problem. ID: 409 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 410 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:54:20 UTC - in response to Message 409. Last modified: 25 Aug 2023, 8:54:41 UTC Yes. Everyone got it right. We know how it goes. We don't know why this is happening. Perhaps one of the users will tell us the direction of finding a solution to this problem. Does that mean the problem is not fixed? And you can't fix it? Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits? ID: 410 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 411 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 410. Does that mean the problem is not fixed? Yes. And you can't fix it? Yes. Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits? Yes. ID: 411 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 412 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:10:33 UTC Last modified: 25 Aug 2023, 9:10:53 UTC It's like this: "either we sit on the forum and blah blah blah" "or we do something necessary for the project." It is not possible at the same time. That's why I don't answer your questions very often. This is not blah blah blah! The important issue of eliminating the problems of the project is being solved! And you must answer all questions related to the problems that have arisen. Answer as often as questions will be asked due to problems. ID: 412 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 413 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 411. Does that mean the problem is not fixed? Yes. And you can't fix it? Yes. Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits? Yes. This is very bad. ID: 413 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 414 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:21:05 UTC Demis However... how to understand it? Top 20 computers only have this type of invalid in that period from Aug 19-20th. Yes. I know. Because the cause was found and corrected. I am preparing an answer according to my version. What is the problem here? ID: 414 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 415 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 414. Demis However... how to understand it? Top 20 computers only have this type of invalid in that period from Aug 19-20th. Yes. I know. Because the cause was found and corrected. I am preparing an answer according to my version. What is the problem here? This point is fully described in Part D. https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=404 ID: 415 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 416 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:10:52 UTC - in response to Message 415. Demis please answer briefly and clearly to the direct question: what problem of "invalid" WU was identified and fixed? ID: 416 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 417 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 416. Demis please answer briefly and clearly to the direct question: what problem of "invalid" WU was identified and fixed? Wu source file was missing. A copy of this file has been restored from an archive. ID: 417 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 418 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 11:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 417. It's clear. ID: 418 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Fardringle Send message Joined: 17 Jun 23 Posts: 9 Credit: 7,315,053 RAC: 58,339	Message 419 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 23:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 401. Before proceeding I want to ask a question What do you see strange from part B First: 2023-08-20 03:15:01 Started Second: 2023-08-20 03:20:01 Started ????? Am I the only one who got the idea? You don't have to answer right now. Just think... Exactly five minutes apart? Interesting coincidence if it is not intentional. ID: 419 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 424 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 12:01:25 UTC Last modified: 30 Aug 2023, 12:17:10 UTC Demis I joined the project today. My invalid task https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=772416 Задание 772416 Имя spt_101_5618270784525935453_0 Задача 492531 Создан 9 Aug 2023, 0:04:05 UTC Отправлен 15 Aug 2023, 14:44:41 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 21 Aug 2023, 14:44:42 UTC Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC Состояние сервера Завершено Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки Состояние клиента Готово Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000) ID компьютера 357 Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 32 сек. Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 30 сек. Состояние проверки Неправильный Очки 0.00 Pay attention to this Отправлен 15 Aug 2023, 14:44:41 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 21 Aug 2023, 14:44:42 UTC How did I end up with a task that came in today, but the deadline for the report is 21 Aug 2023? Please answer the question. ID: 424 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 425 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 12:16:35 UTC This is my second invalid task https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=763228 Задание 763228 Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0 Задача 483356 Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC Состояние сервера Завершено Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки Состояние клиента Готово Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000) ID компьютера 357 Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 24 сек. Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 22 сек. Состояние проверки Неправильный Очки 0.00 Pay attention to this Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC What does it mean? ID: 425 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

fzs600 Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 12 Credit: 1,015,293 RAC: 0	Message 426 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 425. This is my second invalid task https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=763228 Задание 763228 Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0 Задача 483356 Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC Состояние сервера Завершено Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки Состояние клиента Готово Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000) ID компьютера 357 Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 24 сек. Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 22 сек. Состояние проверки Неправильный Очки 0.00 Pay attention to this Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC What does it mean? you have to solve this problem and it's URGENT otherwise you're going to lose a lot of volunteers. ID: 426 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 427 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 426. you have to solve this problem and it's URGENT otherwise you're going to lose a lot of volunteers. I remind you that the project is in test and debug mode. ID: 427 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

mmonnin Send message Joined: 15 Jun 23 Posts: 22 Credit: 10,821,491 RAC: 261	Message 428 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 19:47:31 UTC It probably has something to do with this. Which I already reported. I wrote earlier: The server did not see them all and automatically reassigned them to recalculation. An example of one of my tasks The "Work Unit" (514295) in invalid on the first time it was sent out (Task 794202). Task 946796 was never sent. https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/workunit.php?wuid=514295 But the Work Unit never gets a 2nd task. Demis said it is reassigned somehow. But BOINC servers should be assign it as a 2nd task of the same Work Unit, not another work unit. ID: 428 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 437 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 6:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 428. It probably has something to do with this. Which I already reported. I wrote earlier: The server did not see them all and automatically reassigned them to recalculation. An example of one of my tasks The "Work Unit" (514295) in invalid on the first time it was sent out (Task 794202). Task 946796 was never sent. https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/workunit.php?wuid=514295 But the Work Unit never gets a 2nd task. Demis said it is reassigned somehow. But BOINC servers should be assign it as a 2nd task of the same Work Unit, not another work unit. You wrote everything correctly (if I translated the text correctly). ID: 437 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Natalia Makarova Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 438 Credit: 280,293 RAC: 0	Message 438 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 6:20:24 UTC Last modified: 1 Sep 2023, 8:19:33 UTC Demis я прошу ответить на мой вопрос, заданный здесь https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=424 Мне нужен ваш ответ, а не ответ пользователя! С заданиями полный хаос. Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа, а у них крайний срок отчёта 20 августа. Как такое может быть? Ссылка на задание приведена в указанном сообщении. И дальше есть ещё несколько вопросов - по поводу заданий из 87-й партии. Почему задания из этой партии продолжают поступать, при этом все они загружаются с ошибкой? Это наблюдается и у вас, и у меня, и у другого пользователя https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39&postid=430 Слишком много для случайности! Смотрите тему https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39 ID: 438 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Demis Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Jun 23 Posts: 277 Credit: 4,254,367 RAC: 7,067	Message 442 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 7:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 438. Demis я прошу ответить на мой вопрос, заданный здесь https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=424 Мне нужен ваш ответ, а не ответ пользователя! Ок. С заданиями полный хаос. Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа, а у них крайний срок отчёта 21 августа. Как такое может быть? Ссылка на задание приведена в указанном сообщении. Это не правильное толкование информации. В данном случае "Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа" это НЕ к Вам поступили задания. Сообщение "Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC" говорит о том когда СЕРВЕРОМ получен ответ от клиента. Это единственно правильное толкование. Еще раз, для понимания: Задание 763228 <- это глобальный номер задания Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0 <- это имя файла задания Задача 483356 <- это частный номер выданного клиенту задачи по заданию763228 Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC <- это когда создано на сервере Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC <- это возникает только когда отправлено клиенту Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC <- это дата до которой клиент должен вернуть Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC <- это когда реально клиент вернул серверу То есть, другими словами: Клиент забрал задачу 14 Aug 2023 Клиент вернул задачу 30 Aug 2023 Так как 30 Aug 2023 это больше чем 20 Aug 2023 задача не засчитана. Крайний срок был 20 Aug 2023 Почему такое у Вас произошло? Скорее всего Вы задачи получили и потом поставили на паузу. Потом спустя долгое время сняли с паузы. Но срок уже был пропущен. Сервер переназначил это задание другому клиенту. Об этом Вам уже здесь писали. И дальше есть ещё несколько вопросов - по поводу заданий из 87-й партии. Почему задания из этой партии продолжают поступать, при этом все они загружаются с ошибкой? Это наблюдается и у вас, и у меня, и у другого пользователя https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39&postid=430 Как я уже писал: это странно и я посмотрю. ID: 442 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote