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Message 408 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:37:30 UTC - in response to Message 407.  
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How is that even possible?

Such an event immediately raises an incredibly wide range of completely different questions.
Is this a bug in our assimilator code?
Is this a bug in the boink server code?
Is this a mistake in the settings of the battle server?
Is this a transactional model error?
Is this a bug in MySQL?
Is this a bug in MySQL settings?
Is this a bug in the settings of the OS on which the boink-server is running?
This error definitely does not occur in the case of data processing when "all the necessary files are there"?
How can we trust the received data?
And so on...

There are more than a thousand questions...
It probably takes more than one year to write them all.

Therefore, item 3 now has no answer.
And I just don't know what to do with it...

So the reason is unknown.
And this can happen again at any moment.

Demis
I understand correctly?
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Message 409 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:45:07 UTC - in response to Message 408.  


So the reason is unknown.
And this can happen again at any moment.

Demis
I understand correctly?

Yes.
Everyone got it right.

We know how it goes.
We don't know why this is happening.

Perhaps one of the users will tell us the direction of finding a solution to this problem.
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Message 410 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 8:54:20 UTC - in response to Message 409.  
Last modified: 25 Aug 2023, 8:54:41 UTC

Yes.
Everyone got it right.

We know how it goes.
We don't know why this is happening.

Perhaps one of the users will tell us the direction of finding a solution to this problem.

Does that mean the problem is not fixed?
And you can't fix it?

Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits?
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Message 411 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:04:39 UTC - in response to Message 410.  

Does that mean the problem is not fixed?
Yes.
And you can't fix it?
Yes.
Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits?
Yes.
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Message 412 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:10:33 UTC
Last modified: 25 Aug 2023, 9:10:53 UTC

It's like this: "either we sit on the forum and blah blah blah" "or we do something necessary for the project."
It is not possible at the same time.
That's why I don't answer your questions very often.

This is not blah blah blah!

The important issue of eliminating the problems of the project is being solved!

And you must answer all questions related to the problems that have arisen.
Answer as often as questions will be asked due to problems.
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Message 413 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 411.  

Does that mean the problem is not fixed?
Yes.
And you can't fix it?
Yes.
Will there be cases in the future when calculated tasks will not receive credits?
Yes.

This is very bad.
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Message 414 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:21:05 UTC

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However... how to understand it?

Top 20 computers only have this type of invalid in that period from Aug 19-20th.

Yes.
I know.
Because the cause was found and corrected.
I am preparing an answer according to my version.

What is the problem here?
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Message 415 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 9:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 414.  

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However... how to understand it?

Top 20 computers only have this type of invalid in that period from Aug 19-20th.

Yes.
I know.
Because the cause was found and corrected.
I am preparing an answer according to my version.

What is the problem here?

This point is fully described in Part D.
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=404
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Message 416 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:10:52 UTC - in response to Message 415.  

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please answer briefly and clearly to the direct question: what problem of "invalid" WU was identified and fixed?
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Message 417 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:45:40 UTC - in response to Message 416.  

Demis
please answer briefly and clearly to the direct question: what problem of "invalid" WU was identified and fixed?

Wu source file was missing.
A copy of this file has been restored from an archive.
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Message 418 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 11:21:57 UTC - in response to Message 417.  

It's clear.
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Message 419 - Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 23:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 401.  

Before proceeding I want to ask a question

What do you see strange from part B
First:
2023-08-20 03:15:01 Started

Second:
2023-08-20 03:20:01 Started

?????

Am I the only one who got the idea?

You don't have to answer right now.
Just think...

Exactly five minutes apart?

Interesting coincidence if it is not intentional.
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Message 424 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 12:01:25 UTC
Last modified: 30 Aug 2023, 12:17:10 UTC

Demis
I joined the project today.

My invalid task
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=772416

Задание 772416
Имя spt_101_5618270784525935453_0
Задача 492531
Создан 9 Aug 2023, 0:04:05 UTC
Отправлен 15 Aug 2023, 14:44:41 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 21 Aug 2023, 14:44:42 UTC
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC
Состояние сервера Завершено
Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки
Состояние клиента Готово
Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000)
ID компьютера 357
Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 32 сек.
Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 30 сек.
Состояние проверки Неправильный
Очки 0.00

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Отправлен 15 Aug 2023, 14:44:41 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 21 Aug 2023, 14:44:42 UTC

How did I end up with a task that came in today, but the deadline for the report is 21 Aug 2023?

Please answer the question.
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Message 425 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 12:16:35 UTC

This is my second invalid task
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=763228

Задание 763228
Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0
Задача 483356
Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC
Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC
Состояние сервера Завершено
Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки
Состояние клиента Готово
Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000)
ID компьютера 357
Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 24 сек.
Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 22 сек.
Состояние проверки Неправильный
Очки 0.00

Pay attention to this
Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC
Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC

What does it mean?
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Message 426 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 425.  

This is my second invalid task
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/result.php?resultid=763228

Задание 763228
Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0
Задача 483356
Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC
Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC
Состояние сервера Завершено
Результат выполнения Ошибка проверки
Состояние клиента Готово
Статус выхода 0 (0x00000000)
ID компьютера 357
Время выполнения 1 часов 23 мин. 24 сек.
Время ЦП 1 часов 23 мин. 22 сек.
Состояние проверки Неправильный
Очки 0.00

Pay attention to this
Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC
Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC
Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC

What does it mean?

you have to solve this problem and it's URGENT otherwise you're going to lose a lot of volunteers.
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Message 427 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 13:54:30 UTC - in response to Message 426.  

you have to solve this problem and it's URGENT otherwise you're going to lose a lot of volunteers.

I remind you that the project is in test and debug mode.
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Message 428 - Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 19:47:31 UTC

It probably has something to do with this. Which I already reported.

I wrote earlier: The server did not see them all and automatically reassigned them to recalculation.


An example of one of my tasks
The "Work Unit" (514295) in invalid on the first time it was sent out (Task 794202). Task 946796 was never sent.

https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/workunit.php?wuid=514295

But the Work Unit never gets a 2nd task. Demis said it is reassigned somehow. But BOINC servers should be assign it as a 2nd task of the same Work Unit, not another work unit.
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Message 437 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 6:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 428.  

It probably has something to do with this. Which I already reported.

I wrote earlier: The server did not see them all and automatically reassigned them to recalculation.


An example of one of my tasks
The "Work Unit" (514295) in invalid on the first time it was sent out (Task 794202). Task 946796 was never sent.

https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/workunit.php?wuid=514295

But the Work Unit never gets a 2nd task. Demis said it is reassigned somehow. But BOINC servers should be assign it as a 2nd task of the same Work Unit, not another work unit.

You wrote everything correctly (if I translated the text correctly).
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Message 438 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 6:20:24 UTC
Last modified: 1 Sep 2023, 8:19:33 UTC

Demis
я прошу ответить на мой вопрос, заданный здесь
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=424

Мне нужен ваш ответ, а не ответ пользователя!

С заданиями полный хаос.
Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа, а у них крайний срок отчёта 20 августа.
Как такое может быть?
Ссылка на задание приведена в указанном сообщении.

И дальше есть ещё несколько вопросов - по поводу заданий из 87-й партии.

Почему задания из этой партии продолжают поступать, при этом все они загружаются с ошибкой?
Это наблюдается и у вас, и у меня, и у другого пользователя
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39&postid=430

Слишком много для случайности!

Смотрите тему
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39
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Message 442 - Posted: 1 Sep 2023, 7:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 438.  

Demis
я прошу ответить на мой вопрос, заданный здесь
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=15&postid=424

Мне нужен ваш ответ, а не ответ пользователя!
Ок.

С заданиями полный хаос.
Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа, а у них крайний срок отчёта 21 августа.
Как такое может быть?
Ссылка на задание приведена в указанном сообщении.
Это не правильное толкование информации.
В данном случае "Задания поступили ко мне 30 августа" это НЕ к Вам поступили задания.
Сообщение "Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC" говорит о том когда СЕРВЕРОМ получен ответ от клиента.
Это единственно правильное толкование.

Еще раз, для понимания:
Задание 763228 <- это глобальный номер задания
Имя spt_101_5600379534525935453_0 <- это имя файла задания
Задача 483356 <- это частный номер выданного клиенту задачи по заданию763228
Создан 8 Aug 2023, 23:09:13 UTC <- это когда создано на сервере
Отправлен 14 Aug 2023, 9:32:53 UTC <- это возникает только когда отправлено клиенту
Крайний срок отчёта 20 Aug 2023, 9:32:54 UTC <- это дата до которой клиент должен вернуть
Получен 30 Aug 2023, 6:53:00 UTC <- это когда реально клиент вернул серверу

То есть, другими словами:
Клиент забрал задачу 14 Aug 2023
Клиент вернул задачу 30 Aug 2023
Так как 30 Aug 2023 это больше чем 20 Aug 2023 задача не засчитана.
Крайний срок был 20 Aug 2023

Почему такое у Вас произошло?
Скорее всего Вы задачи получили и потом поставили на паузу.
Потом спустя долгое время сняли с паузы.
Но срок уже был пропущен.
Сервер переназначил это задание другому клиенту.

Об этом Вам уже здесь писали.

И дальше есть ещё несколько вопросов - по поводу заданий из 87-й партии.

Почему задания из этой партии продолжают поступать, при этом все они загружаются с ошибкой?
Это наблюдается и у вас, и у меня, и у другого пользователя
https://boinc.termit.me/adsl/forum_thread.php?id=39&postid=430

Как я уже писал: это странно и я посмотрю.
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